How Lies Increase Betrayal Pain, Pt 2 (Video) – 2.08S

(This one is continued from Episode 2.07s… again, this was before we started filming episodes.)

I confront Jay three times on one of his past beliefs. And we get really clear with guys who are listening.  Timestamps are below.




0:27 What Lori’s counselor said about the lying (a character issue)…. and Jay agrees

1:23 One thing that scares guys, and what helps

2:10 A time Lori lied (‘had a fever’), and how she changed

4:01 When guys aren’t tortured by their lies

4:43 Lori confronts Jay on something he said (‘survival’)

5:24 Lori confronts this belief again

5:49 Lori speaks up for women (‘Do NOT put that in my husband’s ear!’) Jay agrees

6:26 The ‘Stealing Kid’

6:46 Lori gets real with Jay again / he admits it doesn’t make sense

7:28 Jay’s thinking as a teen (It was effective, so… )

7:49 What we are NOT saying

8:22 Jay speaks to the guys (If you’re using my words to justify your actions…)

9:09 Something that may help

9:44  Jay understands why Lori confronted him

9:58  What Jay tells his guys

10:19 Jay, “The lie is just convenient… and”

10:35 Lori asks Jay what he would do differently

11:12 On the subject of lying to ourselves, how facing it got some guys free

11:41 …but if the guy remains self-deceived

12:25 ‘Stinking Common!’ (our why)


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